We're using CLA Clafghan and it seems to be working great. I currently have the camps at low but I might change it to medium.

@HeroesandvillainsOS  Just be advised, putting camps above low will immediately bring you over the warning number for objectives. Offhand, I think going from low to medium will net about 30-40 new objs which you may want to avoid since you specifically asked about performance.

Since you plan on playing with a lot of people, and a lot of people in different areas of the map, balancing population versus performance will be tricky. But stick with it and you'll find a good balance.

Thanks a lot! I currently have the civ placement on Objectives only (I got a few prespawned Installations to start creating insurgents). Regarding the military objective, can I set this to just spawn units so that camps are autocreated with troops or should I keep that Objectives only as well?

Paging @AUTigerGrad (one of the best ALiVE mission makers out there - along with Heroes of course - and did one on Clafghan recently too).

@AUTigerGrad We're playing my mission RESTREPO on our server as we speak.

Some tips I would give for Clafghan....

I think mine is setup almost the same as yours which is cool. I never thought about building my own bases for the OpFor in the mountains; This could result in some interesting scenarios (training base in the mountains for example). If I did not already mention it, I have two civilian placement modules setup. One is made for the villages and one for the city. City has low placement (still a lot of civies) while the villages have a lot more.

Can I still have a military module for the camps and all that but blacklist the FOB's and airbase so they don't spawn stuff in there or will they do it regardless anyway?

I also have a virtual vehicle spawner in our base with a laptop that is hidden that only I can use to "order" more supplies and whatnot, I hope that works out.

I also went around and added extra infrastructure (the lack of any kind of communication / power infrastructure) was odd to me. So I put a few "abandoned" facilities in the city and one eerily "destroyed" one way out South-West.

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More ideas and tips the better. Our persistence starts on Friday so I got all week to wrap up any finishing touches.

What would be a good priority level for a custom objective (Like a house with some netting and whatnot) in the mountains?

@AUTigerGrad I think I placed all of my camps in the 50 priority level and I made their size about 20-30ish so units didn't patrol too far away from the camps.

Do you put any infantry groups there using the Custom Module or leave it as an objective only?

@AUTigerGrad 4. Vehicle spawners-I'm starting to become a scrooge when it comes to vehicle spawners for several reasons.

a. Players on my server are starting to neglect the logistics vehicles I placed in the camps and instead..are using vehicles as "disposable objects" that they drive to a location..then abandon on the battlefield.

You want to know how I solved that in my Snake Wrangler mission?

I use Spyders vehicle spawn and have the actual spawn point quite a way off the map, I also have it trigger a script and remove fuel from the vehicle. The script spawns a chinook out at the same location and has will sling load the vehicle and transport it to the base.
This means from the time you request a vehicle, to the time it is delivered, about 5-8 mins passes. Once the vehicle has been delivered the chinook flies off and despawns out of sight.

Now the players have a vehicle sitting at the base without fuel (OSHA regs, can't transport fully fuelled :P ) so they need to bring the tanker over and fill up their ride. (we also use a script which increased fuel consumption so refuelling is an actual thing)

Doing all this takes time, so with no magic respawning vehicles at base (apart from 2 Quad bikes for general duties) the players seem to take more care of their vehicles, try and make them last, and we've even had vehicle recovery missions to head out and tow back a damaged Jackal, or repair and limp home in a HEMTT.

Plus (at least I think) it adds that little extra layer of immersion. I've even considered doing the same thing but with weapons and ammo, so the players have to keep an eye on supplies at base etc.

I would kill for a script like that @JD_Wang.

I also wish I could get that one function from the ol ArmA 2 MSO regarding "wrecked" vehicles. If you all don't remember, vehicles that get destroyed (blown up, crashed, etc.) had a marker appear over the wreckage and persisted throughout. Salvage crews could go out there and either tow it or get it airlifted back to base where it was dropped off in a sort of "wreckage" zone where it would be respawned / repaired.

I'll dig it out of the mission tonight and post it up for you.

It's pretty basic from what I remember although a bit messy as I'm more a code "copy paster" than a code writer :P

Ok I have 3 empty markers on the map vehicleSpawn, vehicleDelivery, and vehicleDespawn. Pretty self explanatory as to what they do.

then in the code section of the vehicle spawner I have
[["CUP_B_CH47F_GB","vehicleSpawn","vehicleDelivery", "vehicleDespawn"] execVM "scripts\slingload.sqf"]call BIS_fnc_MP;
which calls the script, you can use a different heli by changing the classname.

Then the frankenscript looks like this

if (!isServer) exitWith {};

// pull class names from arguments passed through execVM
_heli_class = _this select 0; 


// marker positions
_spawn =  _this select 1;
_spawn = getMarkerPos _spawn;


_destination = _this select 2;
_destination = getMarkerPos _destination;

_despawn = _this select 3;
_despawn = getMarkerPos _despawn;

"Roger! BIGBIRD 2-1 inbound with your vehicle, ETA 8 minutes" remoteExec ["hint"];
//remoteExec [[west,"HQ"] sidechat"Roger! BIGBIRD 2-1 inbound with your vehicle, ETA 8 minutes"]

	//sleep 120;
// spawn invisble helipad object for heli to target
_helipad_obj = "Land_HelipadEmpty_F" createVehicle _destination;

//while {true} do {
	// spawn heli
	_heli_spawn = [_spawn, 0, _heli_class, West] call BIS_fnc_spawnVehicle;
	_heli = _heli_spawn select 0;
	
	// safeguard it
	//_heli setCaptive True;

	_heli allowDamage false;

	// get heli's crew and assign waypoints	
	_heli_grp = group (driver _heli);
	_heli disableAI "AUTOCOMBAT";
	
			
	_heli_grp setFormation "WEDGE";
    _heli_grp setBehaviour "SAFE";
    _heli_grp setSpeedMode "NORMAL";
	
	// delete all of heli crews' waypoints
	while {(count (wayPoints (_heli_grp) )) > 0} do {
		deleteWaypoint ((wayPoints (_heli_grp)) select 0);
		sleep 0.5;
	};
	
	_mvWP = _heli_grp addWaypoint [_spawn,1];
	_mvWP setWaypointType "HOOK";
	
	sleep 5;
	
	// tell heli to move to and attempt to land at the destination
	_mvWP = _heli_grp addWaypoint [_destination,2];
	_mvWP setWaypointType "UNHOOK";
	
	// tell heli to move to and attempt to land at the destination
	_mvWP = _heli_grp addWaypoint [_despawn,3];
	_mvWP setWaypointType "MOVE";
	

After that I have a trigger at the vehicleDespawn marker that deletes the chopper and crew.
Hope that makes sense

Neato! I wonder if anyone around here knows someone who could possibly look this script over and clean it up / update it. It looks pretty good as is but with all the updates recently idk how it will work out.

Still works perfectly in my mission.